giati apexoun oi<<megaloi>>apo thn kathgoria ton 100?

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oi 2 megaloi apexoun edo ka ikairo apo thn kathgoria ton 1oo theseon.....sigoura i parousiasi tou a18 irthe na kalipsei auto to keno...omos apo oso vlepooi etairoies protimoun akoma ta fokker ta ba kai a embraer. gia poion logo lete na simvainei auto?
 
Οι 2 μεγαλοι ΔΕΝ απεχουν. Η Airbus εχει το Α318 και η Boeing το 737-600. Ειναι αλλο θεμα γιατι αυτα τα 2 μοντελα (οπως και το 737-500) δεν επιασαν στην αγορα. Παντως αλλο το "απεχουν" και αλλο το "δεν πουλανε". Παντως δεν μπορω να πω οτι γενικως πουλανε τα jet αυτης της κατηγοριας. βλεπε Embraer 170 & 145, Dornier 328 jet, Fokker 70 κλπ (για να μην αναφερω τα ρωσικα).
Οι εταιρειες σε αυτην την κατηγορια προτιμουν σαφως τα ελικοφορα.
 
omologo pos agnoousa thn iparksi ton aeroskafon tis boeing.

omos den nomizo na mhn poulane autou tou eidous ta aeroskafi. des thn prosfati paraggelia tis flybe giaembraer 195...tha mporouse kallista na parei a318 dedomenoupos skeftetai na agorasei 12 319 giana kalipsei allous proorismous
 
no frills":famp4nh3 said:
omologo pos agnoousa thn iparksi ton aeroskafon tis boeing.
:doubt:

no frills":famp4nh3 said:
omos den nomizo na mhn poulane autou tou eidous ta aeroskafi. des thn prosfati paraggelia tis flybe giaembraer 195...tha mporouse kallista na parei a318 dedomenoupos skeftetai na agorasei 12 319 giana kalipsei allous proorismous
Μηπως οι τιμες της Embraer ειναι σαφως πιο προσιτες απο της Airbus? H Embraer εχει ελαχιστα μοντελα να προωθησει και καιγεται για πωλησεις ενω η Airbus εχει και τους γιγαντες (Α330, Α340, Α380 κλπ) και εχει ριξει μεγαλο βαρος σε αυτους τους τυπους.
 
The rule of 70 to 110

Sto site ths Embraer, yparxei h gnwmh ( kai vasika ta epixeirhmata) ths etaireias giati prepei kapoios pelaths (Airliner) na agorasei th seira ths... h etaireia to kalei The rule of 70 to 110 ...
Ta stoixeia....idiaitera apo th mesh tou index kai meta (gkri koukides) pou parousiazontai einai akrws endiaferonta gia to segment (vlepe to sxetikothread gia to segmentation.)
:arrow: Gia osous de mporoun na doun << kala>> th selida (logw flashplayer) na parathesoume merika apo ta sovara pragmata kai na sygkentrwsoume merikes skepseis... :)
1.To EMB-195 einai pio fthno sthn agora apo A-318, B-737/500...
Apo thn allh, panta symfwna me thn Embraer, to kostos synthrhshs (Maintenance Cost) tou einai poly mikro...apo 23% katw apo to B-737/500 kai to B-717/200 , 30% apo to A-318 ews 53% katw apo to F-100 :!:
2.An synexisei kaneis pio katw (SEAT & TRIP COMPARISON), fainetai oti sta taxidia emveleias 500nm exei mia poly kalh thesh se sxesh me ton antagwnismo.
3.Ena akomh endiaferon stoixeio einai oti to aeroplano otan epanexypeireteitai anoigei 4 portes :shock: kati poly shmantiko gia th meiwsh tou Turn around time kai thn ayxhsh ths xrhshs tou kata th diarkeia ths hmeras.
4.Telos, h EMB kanei ayto pou oles oi etaireies kanoun twra, powthwntas thn <<koinotypia>> kai thn efkolh metekpaideysh kai eparkeia antallaktikwn apo ton ena typo ston allo.

Etsi loipon...ektos apo thn apopsh ths etaireias peri plhrothtas kai apodotikothtas thesewn (vasika yposthrizei oti yparxoun megalytera perithwria kerdous me aeroplana ths oikogeneias pou paragei logw kalyterou LOAD FACTOR pou mporoun na petyxoun) to EMB fainetai na yperexei se arketa pragmata...

MERIKES APO TIS SKEPSEIS MOU:(Na mhn kourazomaste kiolas :wink: ):kai apanthsh se osa eipate:

:arrow: H EMB exei ependysei exypna sto <<right sizing>> kai tha epiviwsei arxika arketa kala...Exei to atou na mhn exei to tromero agxos twn megalwn project pou exoun oi alloi ...Thn parakolouthoun oi...megaloi....alla logw fortou ergasias...den asxolountai tromera mazi ths...akomh...
:arrow: Oi upoloipes prospatheies...F-100 ktl...akomh ki h prospatheia ths Rekkof de nomizw oti tha ta kataferoun ektos apo to na fane ena komataki apo thn pita...

:arrow: H Boeing kai ayth arketa apasxolhmenh logw B-787 den <<trelainetai>> gia ayto to komati.

:arrow: H de...evrwppaikh...parousiase to A-318 apla gia na ikanopoihsei tous pelates ths kai me stoxo to B-737...oxi gia to EMB. To A-319 exei 1038 paraggelies kai to A-318....66 kai ektos apo thn Tarom oloi oi xrhstes exoun kai A-319. (Metaxy mas...ki egw A-319 tha poulousa :wink: ...oxi A-318.....allo pou oi Galloi tha to pane thn allh evdomada sto Le Bourget gia na to promotaroun ki ayto ligo stous palious pelates.... :wink: )
:arrow: H periptwsh FlyBe pistevw oti einai diaforetikh...Mallon <<dwrean>> ta phran ta EMB-195 :roll: kai pistevw oti an <<toys vgei>> de tha paroun A-319...h :idea: tha ta paroun se poly kalh timh :!:

SYMPERASMA:

1.An exei mia Aeroporikh etaireia commonality (koinotypia) kai thelei na mpei se ayto to segment aeroplanwn, syzhtaei gia A-318, B-737/500, etc...etc... giati to kostos einai makroprothesma pithanon mikrotero .
2.An prokeitai gia ananewsh stolou...megalwma stoxwn h sthsimo Low Cost, h seira ths EMB den einai kakh lysh.

OOUUUFFF...teleiwsa... :4: alla hthela na ta pw...hahaha ( elpizw na mh vghka poly off-topic :roll: )


YG....Xehasa...ta elikofora (ATR ktl) ta opoia kai latrevw :great: <<paizoun>> gia mikroteres apostaseis kai routes (katw apo 300 n.miles)...Ekei einai axtyphta!!! To ATR/72 einai to pio apodotiko se aytes ths apostaseis apo oti yparxei sthn agora. Deite ta routeskai to stolo ths Aer Arran gia paradeigma...
 
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